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Very very cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point because when I had to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to locate one that had not been sludged up truly terribly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to speak concerning a couple of issues of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to come out and claim one is better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the same car.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. Allow's speak concerning engine and really just to specify that the model years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you know, for a variation of a Chevy van has been around considering that, you recognize, around that time too. Since 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s.
So, you know, Fords, and a lot of them come with the Triton V8. There's a whole lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with blow to these engines, because they didn't have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which caused problems. And typically that would take place when you might be in a 15 traveler bus rising a hillside with a load of individuals and all of a sudden boom, a trigger plug bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're purchasing anything from probably 08 and newer, you're not going to have that type of spark plug problems. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leakage, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you need to change the entire point.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing problems, it's an extra advanced engine. Expenses webcam, so you're getting even more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a less complex design with press rods.
They're just really rather excellent, resilient, strong engines. You know, being a van, naturally, you know, doing any solution on them is a lot more challenging since you have actually reached get rid of that cover and obtain into servicing in strange ways. Yet points like stimulate plugs last an awful very long time, so they don't require to be changed really typically.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like means back prior to the 2000 version year.
So, you recognize, that's still offered. I would not suggest a diesel unless you're hauling extremely heavy loads. Diesels need to be worked. That's truly the lower line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I don't understand, I'm simply going to say a plumbing technician and you've obtained like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a truly great use having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have less troubles in vans than they do in the trucks. Probably due to the fact that they aren't worked so hard, yet when things occur, they're actually expensive to take care of. We have actually got a great deal of video clips and details about diesels, especially the Fords.
You actually require to think twice concerning obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will certainly say, Chevy is pretty a lot restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once again, we're just speaking about kind of a directly, regular cargo van here. Look at your function, your use, exactly how much weight you're carrying and that'll assist you make the decision.
One point that we haven't discussed here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what version, they're offered ever before from half ton to one bunch framework and really several of the exploded view vans are actually a lot more resilient, like, you know, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Generally the drive trains, you know, I locate them to be pretty a lot equivalent. Mark: So allow's chat regarding steering and suspension. How do they compare? Bernie: You recognize, I'm mosting likely to provide the edge to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less guiding link involved in a Chevy. So there are much less components to break. They do a round joints that break. So do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the guiding link is much less difficult, so there's much less components and less products to use out.
The trip in a Ford is most likely a bit a lot more vehicle like yet I don't understand if you 'd actually ever before actually observed a distinction between both. It looks like their parts are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are virtually the very same, however I will certainly say that it seems like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they have a tendency to require to be changed practically each time you do a brake work.
For some factor, they seem to last for one brake work. And after that a lot of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. So I assume on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really poor doors. I indicate, the gliding doors were crap, you understand, really severely developed. In fact, I would say that if you are even checking out something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their trucks as a whole really took a leap ahead in quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a great deal of things where the brakes for example would not last very long whatsoever.
But if we're considering the 2000 more recent, I suggest, I would certainly claim they're both most likely basically equivalent in quality, fit and surface, you know, a few of the passenger vans, of training course we'll have better visits than the freight vans. However I can not say that one of them attracts attention to me a little bit greater than the other.
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